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  • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafetoMemes@lemmy.mlKnow the difference.
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    2 months ago

    The imperial powers that were direct threats to the revolution and they were already fighting, buddy, aka the Ottomans and the Germans. Hey, remind me how that worked out in the end? Did the People’s Government get a seat at Versailles? No? Had to fight a war against fucking Poland first and then get even more people killed by Germany later?

    And your argument is “the decision was unpopular,” not that it was wrong.

    You also find that they were not overthrown. Their political alliance was couped, like what happens in a “real democracy” when you push an unpopular policy. Even then, they supported the Bolsheviks anyways in the civil war.

    Generally speaking, it’s considered rude to murder all of your fellow socialists anyways if that happens.



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    If you didn’t willingly ignore the sins of “your side” that’d be valid.

    Meanwhile, the only criticism you launch at the Mensheviks is… They wanted to keep fighting the imperial powers?

    Don’t get me wrong, it was just a bad decision, but it wasn’t, ya know, genociding fellow socialists.

    I’d personally criticize them for thinking they needed to follow the traditional Marxist thought that economic liberalism was a required stage on the path to socialism.










  • Yeah, people don’t give up power willingly, they have to be forced. Especially when they think it’s something they rightfully own.

    At the end of the day it’s just self interest in action.

    You could do it non-violently… In the sense that the Civil Rights Movement or Indian Independence were non-violent.

    Mostly.

    And there was certainly violence directed against them.

    And it only worked because there were enough people who very, very firmly believed in the cause… And there’s always, always the implication of or else.






  • That’s actually the theory of the origin of the split, believe it or not, formal vs casual tone in writing and speech.

    British papers would print the current date as Fifth of September or whatever, American papers would print it as December 18th. There’s exceptions in the record for both, obviously, but that’s the leading theory last I heard.

    There’s also a bit about the British papers being more readily available so more people read it daily and the day was more important, versus American papers having a more rural audience where the month was more important and daily events not so much but I’m not sure I buy that one.